Stage 2 car seat question.?


Josiah is 10 months old, 22 lbs., 30 inches. On carseat.com it says that as long as he is at least 20 lbs, 29 inches, or 1 year old, he may ride in a 2nd stage car seat.
He is hanging out of his 1st stage, rear-facing car seat now, so we went and bought a Graco Nautilus. It’s made for 2nd and 3rd stage. I…

Legally he cannot sit forwards if he’s under a year old, even if he weighs more than 22lbs. It’s simply not safe. Since the Graco Nautilus doesn’t face backwards, he shouldn’t be turned around, so no you shouldn’t put him in the car seat. He’s not ready for it yet.

The requirements are 1 year and 20+lbs because originally they thought that neck control to help protect against neck damage developed enough to allow a baby face forward at a year old. The fact is that the AAP is pushing to increase that to 2 years and something like 30lbs because tests have proven that their necks are still not strong enough to handle accidents, and in more crash tests they’ve shown that until 4+ years (when their head and body becomes more proportional) the danger of an accident is 5x greater if they’re facing forward.

What I would recommend doing is returning the car seat. First, the IIHS identified it as one that doesn’t work in every car and isn’t safe in every car when it reaches the booster stage (see the link below.) So there’s no guarantee you would want to use it when he gets that big. So really your car seat is really only good until 65lbs. Second, the cost of a Nautilus is more than say a Graco My-Ride which faces rear to 40lbs and forward to 65lbs. They run $159 at the highest, though Wal-mart and Target have them for $129-149 normally, and it would keep him safe and legal.

Add: Check it out. Wal-mart has marked it down to $115 now. It’s not my favorite pattern, but still…

What you are reading are the *minimum* in safety requirements… he should be *at least* one year when put forward facing. The reason this age is chosen: The ‘stats’ for car accidents go from a high chance of *death* from ‘internal decapitation’ to ‘only’ a high chance of *complete paralysis* from ‘internal decapitation’ at one year.

It is actually *safest* to keep the child rearfacing *as long as possible*… until he *cannot* fit in a rearfacing carseat. My own child will be three years this month and is *still* in a rearfacing carseat (he is very small for his age… just 26 pounds)… and he will be until he outgrows his carseats rearfacing limits (most likely when he reaches 35 pounds).

The article in the source box will explain the ‘stats’ and minimum ‘requirements’ more fully… including why ‘head control’ and other factors have **nothing** to do with how safe the child is. Basically: In an accident would good control of your head and neck muscles prevent *you* from getting whiplash? Of course not… the crash forces throw your head forward anyway. Your head is just a tiny percentage of your weight… so you get whiplash which isn’t *very* serious. Your child’s head is 25% of his body weight. When it is thrown forward it can pull his spine in two… killing or paralyzing him…. even after he reaches the age of one year.

What you need to do now is to find a *convertable* carseat (converts from stage 1 to stage 2) that will allow him to rearface longer and then forward face later on. Most of these seats will rearface to up to 35 pounds… the ‘MyRide 65’ will allow him to rearface to 40 pounds and then forward face to 65 pounds. Then all you will need is a decicated booster (stage 3 seat) later on. Natilus is a great seat… but it is too soon. He still needs stage one.

The only carseat that is safe fir your son is a convertible carseat (REAR facing). My daughter is 7 1/2 months, 21 lbs, 29 inches so I had to switch her to a convertible. Buy a convertible carseat and keep rear facing until atleast 1 year, preferably as long as he fits backwards facing. I would return the one you just bought and stick with the convertible rear facing for a few more months.

His neck muscles are not developed enough yet for a forward facing seat. Legally, he must be a minimum of 1 year old, although current recommendations are to leave them rear facing until at least two years of age.
Each of my sons were big too, and they outgrew their stage one seats at 7 or 8 months. They both had awesome head control, literally from birth, but we did not face them forward. We bought a convertible seat made for stage one and two, and kept them rear facing until they were over 1 year old (we did not wait until age 2), then bought a booster seat with a removable back, which my 3 1/2 year old currently uses. My 1 1/2 year old is forward-facing in the convertible seat.
Are you sure he is over the requirements for his rear-facing seat? Most of them support weights of up to 24 or 25 lbs at least, and hanging over the edge is not really a safety concern (it bothers us as parents to look at it more than it bothers the child to be sitting in it).

There’s nothing developmentally that okay to ride in a car seat that he doesn’t fit all of the requirements for. My daughter was at that stage also, it made it really difficult but I did go online and find a second stage car seat that would work.

i’ve got seen infants as previous at 18 months nevertheless sufficiently small to apply the point one motor vehicle seat, yet i’ve got seen infants at 10 months already sufficiently massive to apply the point 2. it certainly relies upon on the size of your infant yet I do think of that the point a million motor vehicle seat is greater valuable for a newborn and infant because of fact the point 2 would not recline returned that a ways and your won’t be able to apply it as a service so it is your decision. After the point one motor vehicle seat i think of the three in one is greater valuable because of fact it is going from a motor vehicle seat to a booster and in case you have a touch super infant there is greater strap loops for the straps to be set up bigger.

its actually 20 pounds AND 1 years old….not one or the other. i would just wait the extra two months.
honestly i would keep him rear facing as long as possible. get a convertible carseat so that its bigger but can still face backwards. i kept my son rear facing till he was 18 months old….and he was about 31 pounds at that point. he was walking at 10 months old and i still kept him rear facing that long.

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=5427&ic=48_0&search_query=convertible+carseat&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find
here is some convertible carseats you can look at. you will use it for a long time….i barely stopped using mine last month, and he just turned 4.

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