Then why would we have to go to hell ourselves and pay for them again? God is then, in essence, being paid for our sins twice. With that said, was Jesus’ sacrifice not worthy enough? If that is the case, why should we care that he died for our sins if his sacrifice means nothing at all?
I just never understood the line of “logic” stating that “god” is “all-forgiving” however he will send you to hell because you did X,Y and Z.
Are we completely scrapping our known definition of “all-forgiving”?
Did i not get the memo?
Jesus’ death on the cross was a WILLING sacrifice. He didn’t do it because He HAD to , He did it because He WANTED to. Thus salvation, being saved from entering the Gates of Hell, is a GIFT from Jesus to YOU. but like any gift, it must be ACCEPTED. Suppose I offered you One Million Dollars. A Gift; Tax Free. All you gotta do is go pick it up. Oh — did I tell you that it was burried under 50 feet of hard-pack snow at McMurdough Station, Antarctica? Do you accept it, or not? For some people, that amount of money WOULD be worht their efforts and expenses to go get it. For others, it would not, and they would refuse it. The Gift I left hasn’t changed, but those that refuse to accept it will not reap the benefits. Same with the salvation from Jesus. He OFFERS you the gift of salvation. It is free, from Jesus to you. All YOU have to do is accept it, and you accept the gift of salvation by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. He died and went to Hell so that YOU don’t have to! But you do not have to accept that gift. It is STILL offered, it was made available to you and everyone else, but you are ffee to take your chances. MAYBE we DO just “cease to exist” when we die. MAYBE there is no Hell to be afraid of. The evidence presented in the last 4000 years says that all of those are wrong, but YOU are free to take the chance. If you ACCPET the gift, then Jesus paid the price for you. But if you REJECT His gift — He still paid the price, but YOU rejected His offer, and YOU have to pay your own price.
1 David doesn’t seem to know how to answer a question.
#2 If he really did make that sacrifice, then no one should go to hell ever no matter what you do. If he did it to pay for our sins, then we’re all set. you can run around and do what you want. If that’s not the case, then either what jesus did meant nothing, meaning he was not the christ at all, or christianity is just full of big fat cheese lies. I’m going for the latter myself.
Jesus paid the price for out sins on the cross. He didn’t go to hell for 3 days, he descended into hell to proclaim his victory over sin and death and offered them salvation and if they accepted he took them with him to paradise or heaven. We are only covered by accepting his sacrifice and him as lord of our life. When we refuse to accept his sacrifice we condemn ourselves to hell. God doesn’t do that, he just accepts our decision and honors our request to go to hell.
Not sure that Jesus went to hell, but anyway, salvation is a gift, freely offered but not forced on us. If you accept the gift by giving your life to Jesus, then God is very happy. If you reject the gift by rejecting Jesus, then you have chosen to go to the other place. Accepting Jesus is a wonderful experience, I can testify that knowing Him has given my life meaning and purpose. It doesn’t make life easy 24/7 but Jesus gives the strength to get through the tough times.
First let me clarify something:
* Jesus death paid for the sins and is enough to obtain forgiveness for all sins in history (past present and future) for all humanity.
* His voyage to hell has nothing to do with the payment of sins. He had other objectives in going there.
Now, to have yours sins forgiven you got to accept God’s terms and offer of salvation through Jesus. If you do not obey, your individual account of sins remain open and no deposit from Jesus’ payment is credited to close it. His sacrifice means all if you follow His terms. I sugest you to take His offer.
Mahomet and his disciples, who held Jesus in great respect as a prophet, remarks Eliphas Levi, used to utter, when speaking of Christians, the following remarkable words: “Jesus of Nazareth was verily a true prophet of Allah and a grand man; but lo! his disciples all went insane one day, and made a god of him.”
Max Muller kindly adds: “It was a mistake of the early Fathers to treat the heathen gods as demons or evil spirits, and we must take care not to commit the same error with regard to the Hindu gods.”*
But we have Satan presented to us as the prop and mainstay of sacerdotism — an Atlas, holding the Christian heaven and cosmos upon his shoulders. If he falls, then, in their conception, all is lost, and chaos must come again.
True he was in hell for 3 days but not a fiery hell .Jesus was perfect therefore who would not have went to a hell of torment.All mankind goes to hell when they die. Hell means grave,sheol pit etc.But when Jesus went there first he opened a way for a resurrection for us.(John 5:28-29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
Jesus offers salvation. You would not go to hell for your sins if you were sorry for your sins and believed in Jesus. But I am not sure you are really interested.
The only people that will go to hell are those that will not accept that gift that Jesus gave us by doing exactly that. He died on the cross for our sins, but you have to accept that forgiveness, He went to Hell, not for us, but to declare victory to satan and his demons over sin and death.
Let’s face it, Christians keep prattling on how about Jesus died on the cross as full payment for our sins, and yet we’re still off to hell if we sin. How was that full payment in the slightest?!
Let’s face it, Jesus dying on the cross did jacksh*t. If any Christian wishes to explain to me how he paid for our sins in any way, please tell, cos I can’t seem to understand quite what his whole death-by-crucifixion thing actually achieved. It doesn’t seem like anything happened.