I am a Laveyan Satanist so I’m atheistic but I attend a bible study for shits and giggles every now and then (they think I’m a Christian) and I was just wondering about something I always observe. A Christian will say all of these great good things about God while reading the old testament but they seem to…
They pick and choose. They seems to have forgotten what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17…
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.”
I don’t know what you really “got a preacher to say” in context. If he really did say that there is a different God on the Old Testament, then he was wrong. I supposed this could have happened. Preachers are people and people are occasionally wrong. I think it’s more likely that you are twisting his words, but since I wasn’t there I can’t know.
However, I do agree that the New Testament does show more love and mercy. The explanation given in the text is that Jesus died, was buried, ascended, and then the Holy Spirit was poured out. This event was predicted in the Old Testament. When it happened, God’s love and mercy was seen like never before on the earth. It is not that God changed. It is that we have a different relationship with Him now.
One of the problems is that certain Christians present a God that “loves unconditionally”. They talk only about love and exclude commandments, justice, judgment, wrath, and hell. Their so-called “love Gospel” does make it seem like a different God. The reason is that they are preaching a different “God” that the One in the Bible. If a person isn’t saved, then he will suffer the wrath of God. We see this in the New Testament and much as the Old.
God bless you
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I think what you’re trying to ask about is the Mosaic law. It’s “ignored” because it is no longer used because it was originally intended for the nation of Israel at the time that the Torah was written. It has nothing to do with the Church.
But the Old Testament certainly isn’t ignored (the Psalms and Proverbs remains some of the most widely read books of the Bible). The Mosaic law only comprises a small fraction of the Old Testament as a whole.
They say the old testament was for the people at those times and it’s not applicable to us today… but for some reason the new testament is…
Honestly doesn’t make any sense. People will always come up with reasons to make something seem right/ wrong.
Some will say the OT doesn’t have to be followed. That only the NT is important. Many Christians relegate the OT to a scripture secondary to the NT. They’ll say only the Jews have to follow the OT and that Christians don’t have to. Thinking like that, whatever is in it, good or bad, is inconsequential to them. Though they won’t admit it.
@Comrade re: “Because the stuff written in the Old Testament makes Christians look bad. They essentially altered their violent religion to fit a more civilized age.”
Why would it make CHRISTIANS look bad? Christians did not write the OT. Christians did not exist at the time. There was no “altering” of Christianity because CHRISTIANITY DID NOT EXIST.
it’s the only way how religion could work if you’re not a cave man. those are easy to fool. other people require some more wit (but not much, as we can see). nobody would be christian if they had to believe in all the *bad* parts of the bible, and those that pose duties on them.
I don’t. I love the Old Testament. But I read it with the understanding that I am not under the Law of Moses. If I were, i would be under a curse, because all who live by the law must follow the law perfectly, or they are lawbreakers, and under a curse. I am not under law, I am under grace. Jesus Christ ALONE perfectly fulfilled the law, and inherited its blessings and exhausted its curses, and fulfilled all its types and figures.
Those who are born of God will hear and understand this. Those who are dead sin cannot understand.
” And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. ”
Because the stuff written in the Old Testament makes Christians look bad. They essentially altered their violent religion to fit a more civilized age.