First let me start off my stating that Im a 26 year old female with a high level of pain tolerance. I was raised in between two brothers who wrestled and beat me up all my life. I was the girl who played competitive travel soccer and would twist her ankle and refuse to tell anyone until the game was over so I could…
I’ve had three EGD’s and a flex sig with no anesthesiologist
– but not a full colonoscopy.
My experience was not this bad, and the many hundreds of patients
I have had who went through these never reported any experience like this.
Like Denise – very sorry you had such a rough time.
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People should read this who go to their doctors wanting tests to rule out cancers
they are not likely to have. We get dozens of questions daily from teens or
twenty-something people who think they have colon cancer or stomach cancer
based on non-specific symptoms – despite the fact that very few of these cancers
are ever found in young people. Some of these anxious people push their doctors
to do unnecessary procedures for their anxiety. These people should realize that
the tests done to rule out a malignancy can be very unpleasant not to mention very
expensive. You may have had up to $10,000 worth of tests today.
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Out of interest – why would a 26 year old need an upper and lower endoscopy ?
There aren’t many GI diseases which a 26 should have at this age.
There are other tests less invasive to evaluate blood in stool and common general
symptoms such as nausea, constipation, weight loss, and nonspecific abd. pains.
They should not have been worried about a cancer in someone so young.
Very glad they found nothing wrong.
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In retrospect, you went though this hell, and all you gained was some reassurance
that you do not have a malignancy – which was not likely in the first place.
I have refused screening colonoscopy for myself at age 50. I’ll take my chances.
I think I would have refused a colonoscopy for your symptoms at age 26.
As Denise says, you always have the right to refuse a test.
Tough for you to know that since you are not a doctor.
Doctors having nurses have to hold the patient down while they are screaming should never happen. So long as you are conscious and you say “stop”, the doctor is required to stop because at that point you have rescinded your consent. Now, let me say there are cases where a patient who was in twilight sedation was not fully relaxed and felt pain but couldn’t get the doctor to stop; however, those who are given twilight are also given Versed which is meant to create amnesia. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, it makes you forget and done improperly it may not work.
On the list of recommended forms of sedation for colonoscopies inhaling nitrous oxide – laughing gas may be lower on the list. None of the doctors I visited offer that option. The reason is though recovery is quicker, there is a higher incident of patients experiencing pain. Most used to use twilight; but, more and more facilities are using Propofol; which requires an anaesthesiologist to administer. Propofol has fewer side effects and a faster recovery.
Personally, I have had 5 colonoscopies to date and never been sedated for it; however, that was by my own choosing. I do experience some pain and discomfort; however, I can communicate where and the severity of the pain to the doctor. The doctor needs to proceed slower so as to keep my discomfort lower. If you have a high pain tolerance; then no sedation could be an option in the future; but, you need to find a doctor who will agree to doing it without sedation. I always agree to an IV, in case something goes wrong and I need to be sedated for surgery. The nurse helps by applying pressure in areas where I am feeling pain. This usually helps guide the scope or stop it from kinking.
I would file a formal complaint against the doctor and the facility with the medical review board.
I’m not sure where you are from, like everyone else said..but, I work in the surgery center where I’m located, and I can assure you that this doesn’t happen where I work. I’m a patient care technician. Patients receive the prep. They also are scheduled under “IV Sedation” mostly. That means that a medicine that puts you in a twilight type of sleep is administered through your IV. It doesn’t put you completely out, but when you start to remember things, it will seem like you were asleep the entire time, even though you weren’t, you were partially awake. Some people actually are put completely out upon request, called a “General Anesthetic”. This is where they actually administer the gas, and once you’re asleep, they put you on a ventilator (tube down your throat to breathe for you).
I have never heard of this happening before! File all the complaints you can. Don’t let them put another person what you just went through. You didn’t deserve all that. I can assure you, if you had gone anywhere else, you wouldn’t have experienced that. You wouldn’t have remembered anything during the procedure! As for the person who commented stating how young people shouldn’t have an upper scope done or whatever, there are a massive amount of young people who have them done where I work. A lot of these young people, younger than 26 actually, have them done due to nausea, heart burn, weight loss due to unexpected sickness, irritability to certain foods, suspected hiatal hernias, ect.. As for a colonoscopy, younger people have rectal bleeding also. They also can have other symptoms that older people have, too, such as constipation all the time, diarrhea all the time, irritability to certain food, ect.. The doctors that work at the hospital I’m with do the best they can for their clients. If their clients, even at 15 years old, come to them with concerns of constipation and other things, they would like to find out what’s wrong. They don’t have to do regular screenings for colon cancer or anything, like older people do 🙂 there are other reasons to have scopes done 🙂
A little info I think should be considered about this drug Versed ( Midazolam ) that is used for Sedation for many medical procedures..Sedation and General Anesthesia are not the same and quite a few people being given Sedation
think they are being given General Anesthesia!
There is simply no good or valid reason to ever purposely induce amnesia during a medical procedure. It is only a recent development in medical thinking that amnesia is somehow a “benefit” to the patient. On occasion some
some patients will remember a bad experience. Forgetting does not mean it did not happen!!
I feel that if people were aware of the effects of this drug they would Opt For Another Drug!
Erasing someones memory of what was done to them is wrong!!
In fact, many people who use Versed for ” IV Sedation,Conscious Sedation” Twilight Sedation, during a procedure are Awake For The Entire Procedure but remember nothing, often Believing They Were “Out” the whole time.
Versed (Midazolam) is an amnestic. It is also commonly used for minor procedures like setting broken bones,colonoscopies,endoscopies, dental procedures like extractions,conscious sedation,twilight sleep, so that patients won’t remember pain and discomfort.HOWEVER THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THOSE SENSATIONS WILL NOT BE EXPERIENCED!!!!
A note from an anesthesiologist
I agree that using midazolam alone in painful situations is wrong. I’ve heard people getting colonoscopies and screaming, and maybe they remember, maybe they don’t.
A note I got from someone on Yahoo Answers who did have a bad experience..This is very disconcerting… My sister said she heard me screaming from the waiting room but assumed it wasn’t me. When we left we heard another female patient screaming. I did a lot of research since your post, thanks so much for the info.
Here is a note from a Dentist Who uses Versed
I’ve used Versed 1000+ times during oral surgery procedures and I’ve never had a complaint. It’s a miracle drug because it is safe and it causes you to not remember an unpleasant experience. My answer to him is isn’t it better to have not experienced the pain than to have forgot it. No wonder you have had no complaints they have no memory of the procedure…..
I feel that giving a drug for amnesia is cruel I would not want it done to me!
A strange development in medical thinking that it’s okay for a patient to have
pain as long as they don’t remember it and think they slept thru the procedure..
Here is a link for some info
Oh your poor thing.
Most people are not completely out.
If you should ever need one in the future have it in a hospital not a standalone center and make sure the doctor knows about this experience.
What you went through is not normal, but occasionally it is painful for some people and when this happens the doctor will usually stop and abort the procedure.
You can always tell them to stop a patient can refuse anything they want. Personally I would only have an EGD if I was asleep.
I would be interested to read the doctor’s report.
I don’t know where you live, but you need to make a formal complaint. IF you are not making this up, I think you have a good case for a legal complaint of negligence and some sort of compensation.
I’ve had several of these (in Australia, where I live), and have NEVER experienced what you describe. It has been a completely painless experience, done with light sedation administered intravenously, with a qualified anaesthetist present – not gas). I find it very hard to believe that any medical person would continue with a proceduare where the person is clearly not sedated properly. If they did, they need to be reported to the authorities.
The prep is tedious but that’s all. The prep doesn’t hurt, it’s just a boring couple of days.
I just hope your description hasn’t put anyone off who needs to have one. Otherwise they might delay life saving medical treatment for a serious problem such as colon / stomach/ bowel cancer.
They should have given you something that put you to sleep till the procedure was over.I had the same thing done and never felt a thing.Thank God you don’t have anything wrong with you.But I certainly would complain about the procedure.Not that it will do you any good.
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